WITH ANDREA CRISP AND ALEX STREET
“You know what I was thinking? I was thinking that when I first started, I needed courage, and that’s why this was so important. I was fearful. I was very fearful when I first started, and I knew in order to make a bigger impact in my life, I needed to have courage, that is where this was born.”
About Episode:
Today we're celebrating a huge milestone in the life of the podcast with the 200th episode by going completely off script and unedited. Join Alex Street as he interviews the host of the show Andrea Crisp on her journey through 200 shows.
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Transcript
Kate 0:00
You're listening to the 200th episode of The Couragecast, and we're so glad you joined us for this monumental milestone in the life of the podcast. My name is Kate Tenkate and I've been introducing you to the show for the past 199 episodes. This week we're doing something special, and I have the honor of introducing both the host of the show and our special guest. Today we're going behind the scenes with an unscripted, unedited version of the show. Our good friend and story coach, Alex Street, is interviewing Andrea in celebration of the 200th show. But before we get to the show, let's hear from a few of our friends.
Amanda Cahill 0:40
Hello, I'm Amanda Cahill, and along with my Bold Women Society co-founder Caytie Langford, we want to wish The Couragecast a very, very happy 200th episode.
Niki Ferguson 0:52
Hello, Andrea. It's Niki Ferguson, I just wanted to say congratulations, and happy 200th episode. I'm so excited for you and The Couragecast, and cannot wait to see where you go from here.
Alex Street 1:05
And yeah, and I'm so so grateful to be celebrating your 200th Episode! It's amazing, and I think about all of the ripples that this has created, like all of the people that have listened to this, what is that brought into their lives, and who they have impacted, like the David Meltzer says his whole goal is to teach like 1000 people how to be happy and how to teach other people how to be happy. It's like, because the math is if I can teach 1000 people, those 1000 people teach 1000 people, and he's like, then you get to the entire world. And what you were doing has a ripple effect that is self sustaining, and will continue on into eternity really, so grateful to be a part of this.
Alex Street 1:51
Um, okay, we got to, we got to do something here. Because we just record our conversations from now on. What do you want? What, I'm interviewing you, correct? What do you want? What's the goal here? Episode 200, what do you want?
Andrea Crisp 2:15
The goal, you know what, I want, I want to come out of it, like, you know, kind of where we've been, where we're going. And you know, I'm just gonna let you, I'm gonna let it happen. I don't know. I, you know what, I thought to myself, I could write it all out. And I could give it to you. And like, you know, "Here ask me like something like this." And then I thought, No, I'm just gonna..
Alex Street 2:40
Okay! About you, your business, the podcasts, all in the same. It's all together, right?
Andrea Crisp 2:49
Anything you want? Any, anything and everything!
Alex Street 2:55
Is it 200? Or is this 201? This will be 200. Okay!
Andrea Crisp 3:00
This will be 200.
Alex Street 3:00
So, do you want to like, introduce it, and then essentially hand me the microphone. You know, like, do, what do you, or will that be done in post anyways?
Andrea Crisp 3:17
I was actually thinking that I was gonna air some of this conversation right now.
Alex Street 3:25
There, okay, go for it. You put whatever you want. There's some burned bridges. Good. So, okay, so let me just get into it. Great.
Andrea Crisp 3:49
Yeah. I mean, I trust you with this, that's why I asked you to do it, right? And I figured if, if I, I think, when I'm thinking about, you know, the 200th episode, and like, where I've been, then my mind, you know, want to take control. I want to like, Oh, yeah. But you know, what I want I really want is I want to, I want to let go of control and I want some magic to start to really take place.
Alex Street 4:18
Okay.
Andrea Crisp 4:18
And that means I need to...
Alex Street 4:22
Let's go with it. This is good. Okay. Oh, Andrea, it is so so good to be with you in this setting in this format. You have invited me in, and I am incredibly honored and grateful for this opportunity. How are you feeling?
Andrea Crisp 4:44
Sick, you know, I know I'm actually like, all day I was like, I think I need to take a walk before I actually get on this call with you. It feels surreal. I think I look at other people and I go, "They've done shows that I've had 400 episodes or 600 episodes." And then someone said to me the other day like, "Wow, you've done 200 episodes like, no wonder, you really know how to interview people." And I thought about that for a second. I was like, wow, yeah, I guess I have.
Alex Street 5:17
Yeah!
Andrea Crisp 5:17
Like 200 is a lot.
Alex Street 5:18
Yeah. When was the last time you did 200 of something?
Andrea Crisp 5:20
Yeah.
Alex Street 5:22
It's right.
Andrea Crisp 5:24
Yeah. Okay. Well when you say that like that? Yeah, totally.
Alex Street 5:27
Like, you think of places that you've been a lot. I, you know, are sure we go to you know, we get food from a specific fast food place. I just told the story the other day about how the guys at Pizza Pizza, know my name, I go in, and they say, "Alex!", they give me pizza, and they give me free stuff. I haven't been there 200 times. I'd be lucky if I've been there 50 times. But my name is on the frickin receipt. So they see that, so they know me. And so when you do you put it in that perspective, you have committed to this. And it is absolutely worth a celebration simply for that. Because if there's something that our society, our culture doesn't do very much of these days, it is commitment, especially to something that's difficult and takes a lot of work. So well done!
Andrea Crisp 6:16
Yeah. This takes a lot of work!
Alex Street 6:18
It does.
Andrea Crisp 6:19
Thank you. No, thank you. I really do, I really do appreciate it, because I I've been thinking about that a lot. And about, you know, just even the past few weeks, there are times where I'm like, "Okay, well, maybe I just do the 200th episode, and that's it." You know, you know, am I done? Like is this it, like, yeah, you know, do I have any more? I think that's the biggest thing when you're doing a podcast is, is there any more to say? Anything more to say? Is there any other directions that haven't taken this yet, or can be explored?
Alex Street 6:54
So tell me about that a little bit. Because that's, that's where you're at. And that is where a lot of people are at, whether it's episode 200, or episode six, they get this feeling of like, can I really do this? Can I keep doing this? Can I continue? Is there enough left in the tank? Is there enough creativity? Do I really have that many ideas or friends or acquaintances to interview?
Andrea Crisp 7:20
Can I have Alex on again?
Alex Street 7:23
Yes, the answer is always yes. Do you have? So you face those questions? Those questions sound like...this, it could be fear asking those questions.
Andrea Crisp 7:42
Still.
Alex Street 7:44
Yeah, what is that fear? Fear of what?
Andrea Crisp 7:51
That even though I'm learning things in my life, even though I'm experiencing things, that I don't know enough about them, to talk about them, which is, I think what I felt at the beginning, too, because everything that I'm talking about on a podcast, on an episode, is based out of my own experience, my own learning, my own journey, some of it, you know, being shared more openly than other times, but you get to a point, you're like, "Well, can I eloquently talk about this? Or am I healed enough to share this particular thing in my life? Or do they want to know this? Do they care?" You know, does anyone you know like, if I asked guests to come on, do they really want to come on, like all those things, right? That people probably don't perceive that I probably think about, but they're still...
Alex Street 8:51
Yeah, so do I know enough about this? Have I healed from this? Enough to talk about it? Will they like it? Will they care? Will they say yes to my invitation? There's so much around all of that that you're saying dealing with an episode 200 and on, that you were dealing with with episode one, that is still here still going. So there's two thoughts of this that I have that I want you to tell me about. Because you've if what you're facing now is similar to what you were facing then, what has changed about the way that you approach this, and your business in general, and your life? If that's who you were back then, you wonder, how your how many years ago is that?
Andrea Crisp 9:43
It's like almost, it was four.
Alex Street 9:47
That's who you were back then when you started. Who are you now? How do you show?Yes, you still feel those things, but you're showing up differently. What's changed?
Andrea Crisp 9:59
Oh, 100% I think the journey that I've been on, as scary as it has been to talk about at times, you know, bringing people through, you know, me walking through my own entrepreneurship journey, and you know, the highs and lows of that. And then, you know, talking about, you know, anxiety and depression, and the highs and lows of that, and spiritual deconstruction, and that, you know, to you know, pivoting in my business, and what does that look like, and, you know, wondering, are people still following along in the journey. I think that when I look over four and a half years, or 200 episodes, the through line for me seems to be more about, if this is a journey, like Living Courageously is a journey, like it's not a destination place, like I do this, and I get that. It's more about, like, if I keep sharing, then there's gonna be people that come at certain points in the journey that needs certain things. They resonate with maybe what I'm going through at the time, or what I'm speaking about, or a guest that I'm bringing on and they're sharing about, it's helping them realize their purpose, it's helping to get clarity, it's helping them be confident, it's helping them to share their story, all those things, to make a bigger impact in their lives, in their world, and their community. And so I think about it that way, like that's...
Alex Street 11:31
So as you have shifted and grown, and you do find the ability to be vulnerable and authentic with your journey now, and revealing parts of yourself that you were hiding, you're saying that the ability to recognize that, "Oh, my audience is also changing. And, and will find..."
Andrea Crisp 11:56
Yeah!
Alex Street 11:57
...solace in this community, if it's one listener, and you, now you've got a community, right? If they say, "You're kidding, you too", now you've tapped into something in their life that is only happening, because you had the courage to speak about it.
Andrea Crisp 12:19
Yeah, you know, I've had, especially with this spiritual deconstruction aspect of, which is not really what the podcast is about. But, you know, I've shared about that, but I've had a lot of people, a lot of women come to me, you know, and talk to me about that, or, you know, they're in that place in their lives. And, you know, it's manifesting in their business, or it looks, things different for them now. And I think that part of you know, the journey resonates with so many, like, life used to look like this, and now it looks like this. And, you know, you can totally change the topic, but same applies, right. And so people are like, yeah, like, you know, in 2020 life look like this, and then 2022 life looks absolutely different.
Alex Street 13:05
This is what's so interesting about this for me, I'm one, I would love for you to explain that within the context of courage. Let's take that word courage to you, The Couragecast, and everything. But that word courage. Yeah, that's just what I mean. It meant something different four and a half years ago, when you decided to give this thing a moniker and say, Yeah!
Andrea Crisp 13:28
You know what it meant? I was, I wanted to, at the time, like, my whole tagline was empowering limit. Easy for me to say, empowering women to live bravely, right? By sharing stories of them overcoming.
Alex Street 13:44
Yeah.
Andrea Crisp 13:44
That's what it meant before, and what it means now is really living in really having courage, like actually having courage every day. Because there's been so many things that, you know, I've gone through, or collectively we've gone through, that have, you know, taken a lot of courage to walk through, like, I look back, and I can't believe like, you know, two years of the podcast out of four has been in a pandemic. And so many of the episodes have been around, you know, things, you know, like, racial injustice, and, you know, and then, you know, transitioning from those things to like, really, like, all sorts of things that I would never have thought I would have talked about, or had to deal with, or had to share about, or communicate about, and every one of those episodes or bringing a guest on and asking them about their story, was me living out, you know, this, this place in my own life that took courage, because I had to learn right in front of the whole entire audience. I had to be schooled. I had to adapt. I had to constantly be reinventing in a way that plays out in front of everybody. And it looks maybe polished, or sounds polished, people, but in reality, like there's so many things going on in inside of me, that I'm trying to like navigate and get through and figure out and be like, "How do I express that, and how do I share that?"
Alex Street 15:25
So you've got this, when it began, you said it was empowering women to live bravely by sharing stories of overcoming. And now you're like, I, it's about Living Courageously. Like, it's what's happened seems like what has happened in a lot of places around the world is we got really simplified in what this is about. And we don't have time for everything else, like, I've just got to show up and do the thing. I just I, you know, for me, that's like, I could talk about a lot of things. I just really want to talk about stories. And the more clear that I am on that the more people come to me. The more clear that you are, that you help people, you know, experience and live in courage, the more they're gonna find you, the more that makes sense.
Andrea Crisp 16:14
Yeah.
Alex Street 16:14
And I think what, this is not much different, though, this empowering women to live bravely. That's where you began, because that's where you were. And as you have done that, as you say, it required courage of me all along the way. And more and more, like on a more intense level. You think that as you do something like this 200 times, it becomes easier? And you're saying, "No, but I'm choosing to go down the paths that require another level of courage from me. As I learn in front of people as I opened myself up, and I say, I don't know!" That that has required a new level of courage from you.
Andrea Crisp 16:59
The "I don't know" part as soon as you said that, that's so true. Because you, when you're in this place right now, and I think, "Okay, what's beyond 200 episodes, right?" I could have this like, eloquently crafted statement about what we're going to be doing, and how things are going to be and tune in for, you know, next week's episode blah blah, blah. And, you know, there are times where I'm like, "I don't know what I'm going to talk about next month", you know, or, "can I talk about what just happened? Or am I ready to talk about what just happened in the world?" And those are, you know, moments of like, okay, well, maybe I'll get two people listening that week. I don't know, you know, who knows? Maybe it's gonna be the, the most downloaded episode.
Alex Street 17:40
How do you? Okay, so when the question of I don't know, comes up? How do you, what kind of a practice or process do you use or go through to begin to find clarity amongst that confusion?
Andrea Crisp 17:56
I think the thing that I've relied on the most, the whole way through is my intuition. So just really being, you know, lead intuitively to know, "Okay, yeah, this is, this is where I'm going." I know that probably business people and people who've got more of a strategy mind would say, "You know, you should probably do this and you know, all the things," and, but at the end of the day, you know, doing something like a podcast, you really do have to be able to touch with the topic and connect with where you're at, and if I'm not connecting with it, then it's gonna fall flat. Anyway, so I think I learned that early on because I you know, there's in 200 episodes, Alex, I haven't had, you know, like, I haven't had a W for every one of them.
Alex Street 18:46
That's good, yup!
Andrea Crisp 18:47
Yeah, so!
Alex Street 18:49
Tell us about your worst ones. Who was your worst interview?
Andrea Crisp 18:55
You know, like that some of them have been like, not good. And some of the guests were not prepared, or not, you know, they really couldn't even share their story well, and foolishly or naively I guess, I aired them because I didn't know how to not. I didn't know how to set a boundary. I didn't know how to say no at the time. I mean, those are things obviously that I've had to learn along the way too, and that has taken courage in my own life to you know, have a recording and listen bvack and go, "This is awful, I cannot air this!" And you know, I've been disappointed so many times by having guests on, like, okay, I guess I'm just getting real vulnerable. I mean, you know, you know, having them air this. I'm totally airing, I totally can air this, but it feels like it's just a conversation. There's no script here, obviously. But there have been times where like, I've had people on and I had this really big expectation for...
Alex Street 20:01
Yeah.
Andrea Crisp 20:02
You know what could happen as an outcome to them being on the podcast, and the expectation wasn't met. The person you know didn't share the episode, or you know didn't you know even answer back when I thanked them. So there have been a lot of disappointments, you know, along the way, as well as some incredible connections with people that maybe I didn't see it coming. And all of a sudden they became like, you know, like lifers. Like they're like friends or like, yeah, these people will be my life.
Alex Street 20:38
So are those relationships worse then disappointments?
Andrea Crisp 20:43
Absolutely. Cuz I mean, how do you learn, right?
Alex Street 20:45
And that's what's so beautiful about this is, it sounds like you're talking about a podcast. And it also sounds like you're talking about, you know, last month, like your life last year, like, yeah, there's a lot of disappointments, there were some connections that I thought would happen. There were some, some launches that I thought would thrive. There were things that I, I really expected to go a certain way. But that person didn't respond how I thought they would, or not at all. And then...
Andrea Crisp 21:13
Yep.
Alex Street 21:14
As I continue to put myself out there, huh, there's some really incredible connections and network, networking that has come out of this and truly, like deep friendships that you've created, simply because, you know, we stop ourselves from doing the thing, because for fear of those disappointments, and what will those disappointments mean? If they don't respond, that means exactly what you were afraid of before, and are afraid of now going forward? Which is, "Yeah, it wasn't good enough. It wasn't what we needed to hear." She clearly doesn't know what she's talking about. Right?
Andrea Crisp 21:57
Yeah, it's so true. It's funny, you say that, I had a client today I was talking to him. And one of the questions I asked him was, what are you making that mean? And I think if I, if I knew that now, or if I knew that, like years ago, when I first started, I could have easily, you know, gotten through some of those disappointments a lot, with a lot more, I don't know, grace. But I made it mean, you know, I'm not good enough. I made it mean that, you know, things aren't growing fast, and must be something wrong with me. And I think at the end of the day, it's like, we assign meaning to things, you know, that are not always true. That's just a perspective. And it's, you know,
Alex Street 22:44
Yeah, which then I think, you know, to add to this, I think what's so, what's been so great to watch in your journey. And, you know, as we've shared this journey, together, you and I kind of just, you know, all along the way, and then the friendship that we've had is to see the growth, and to see how, yeah, there's there's ups and downs, those blips here, here and there.
Alex Street 23:07
But it's no surprise, but I'm going to see the story in it. And I'm going to see for you, right, whether it's what do you making that mean, can be such an in the moment thing, and in the moment reaction, that's what's going on there. And so for you, even in this moment to say, "Do I know enough to keep going for episode 300? You know, will I have 100 More episodes in me for this," which then filters through all those questions that you asked earlier? Am I enough? Do I have enough? All those things? Do I know enough people? And that's such an in the moment right now? Do I have what it takes? I don't think I do, because I'm creating this meaning around it. But if you look bigger, and you look more consistently in your story, Andrea, you have transformed in such significant ways, and we just did a microcosm of like just in four and a half years, through this specific context of this podcast, you have changed in your definition and how you approach life. So if somebody doesn't email you back, so if somebody doesn't share the episode, who cares? Because my goodness, is that another learning experience, is that another thing that you can share, and you can courageously show up with because yours is a story of constantly overcoming other people's expectations, disappointments, and creating a world of your own?
Andrea Crisp 24:33
See, that's why I asked you to do this. I knew there was a reason for that.
Alex Street 24:38
Oh, what did you just hear? What? What? What stuck out there?
Andrea Crisp 24:42
You know what I was thinking? Yeah, I was thinking that when I first started, I needed courage, and that's why this was so important. I was fearful. I was very fearful when I first started, and I knew in order to make a bigger impact in my life, that I needed to have courage, that is where this was born. You know, what happened was I had to go through some stuff, I had to continually make decisions that were brave to be brave. Some of it worked out, and some of it didn't. There were disappointments, and there were triumphs. But at the end, you know, now, I realize how confident I am in who I am. And in how I show up in the world. And it still takes courage. But I have an ownership now over who I am, that I don't know, that I had when I started. So a lot of fear there. And I think there's, I think there's a difference between being fearful, and being courageous. Because when you're in fear, you're just living in this whole place of like, overwhelming fear, and some of it's real, and some of it's not. And when you're just having courage, it's like, "No, I'm just gonna take a risk, and I'm gonna put myself out there", and there may not be fear. But there's unknown. And I think now I'm in that place. So it's more about like, "Can I be in the unknown? Can I expand? Can I be uncomfortable? Can I do those things versus can I face the fear? So courage looks different today than it did when I first started.
Alex Street 26:48
Wow. I mean, you said...
Andrea Crisp 26:53
And that's what you pay for story coaching, friend!
Alex Street 27:00
So you said if I'm going to, this is the key, I think a lot of people are have this, this statement in their mind, and they they need to proclaim it with their mouth. If I'm going to make an impact, it's going to require courage. And, and that led you to, you know, through sweaty palms, and I don't know what else, hit record, and publish on episode number one...
Andrea Crisp 27:30
Yeah,.
Alex Street 27:31
....four and a half years ago. Now, here you are. And you've had all these amazing moments and all these incredible guests. And you have grown and this is become, you know, like all podcasts, somewhat of a diary to share your growth process along the way in a public facing place. And now, you're like courage has changed. That kind of courage? Oh, come on.
Andrea Crisp 27:59
Yeah.
Alex Street 27:59
Like, hold my beer. Like, let's go. That's no problem. I guess I could do that again. And yet, you're facing things out and coming up with thing now that's a whole, it seems like the same thing. But it's like, as you said, you're doing things now that you didn't think you could before. But it's still requiring a whole other kind of courage. Level of that.
Andrea Crisp 28:24
Yeah. The, up level of that is is big. And I remember, I remember thinking, when I first started, like, my first few episodes, and the guests I had on, I was like, I remember thinking, "Oh, I hope people really think that this is really cool. And like that my guests are really cool. And you know", and because I wanted to be, I wanted to be somebody. Right? And if, if they were cool, then I would be somebody...
Alex Street 28:54
Cool by association.
Andrea Crisp 28:55
...you recognize. Yeah, I can't believe that I'm admitting that now, seems so dumb. But anyways, you know, I think now, I'm like, what is it? What does it look like now and I'm going to record an episode of me, it feels like I want the person who's listening to know there, somebody. You know, and I think that it's as much as I'm sharing about me all the time, like I am sharing today about me. I think the underlying reason why I share about me is so that somebody can hear something about my story about what I've gone through and resonates. It hits home and it's like yeah, if she can do it, if she can live through this, if she can move beyond some of these things. Change, grow, expand and hurl.
Alex Street 29:52
Then can I!
Andrea Crisp 29:55
Yeah.
Alex Street 29:55
I mean, it's such a transformative human experience statement. If they can do it, so can I. And yeah, it's this idea. It's about me. But really, it's about you. I'm telling my story. And the communicators that we tune out from, it is about them. They're telling their stories just because they have a microphone, and they can talk, and they hope that somebody will listen, bullhorn on the street, like, just go for it. But what's happening with that guy on the street corner, most people are just walking by I don't care. It's just noise. But when you say something that sounds like, "Oh, she's telling me this because it's what we're all feeling. That's a different level. And that's a compassion that you bring that I know is why your listeners listen. Because it is, it's compassion, mixed with courage, that allows you to hit record now, and show up for the sake of the listener. Which is admirable.
Andrea Crisp 30:57
Yeah.
Alex Street 30:58
And, you know, at the very least, is admirable on this and I look at that and go like, Oh, man, I can show up like that. And I think, truly in our world today, it's the kind of work that is heroic. It's you stepping forward and saying, "I've got a thing to do, and I'm gonna go do it."
Andrea Crisp 31:17
Yeah, it's even scary to think today, like I can feel like in my body right now. I can tell in my voice, and I'm sure maybe even people who listen to the podcast a lot would know, notice a difference in how I sound right now versus how I would sound in any other podcast. I feel like this is showing up on a level like, again, like I said,
Alex Street 31:49
Yeah?
Andrea Crisp 31:50
You know, no script. I'm not filtering this. I'm not trying to make it sound better. Or, you know, of course, like with any podcasts, anything you do you try to your best to, like, you know, make sure...
Alex Street 32:05
But, okay, wait, but yeah, but that's, that's!
Andrea Crisp 32:07
You know?
Alex Street 32:09
That is not, that's different. You, yes, you'll make it sound good, because you're a creator. And you're gonna bring your best, you're a creative, so you're gonna bring your self, sure I'll get on the keys and play something good on the piano. I'm going to do my best.
Andrea Crisp 32:27
Yeah.
Alex Street 32:27
Like, that effort is I'm going to bring it so even today, in this thing, you're saying, I sound different than I would if I was showing up on another podcast?
Andrea Crisp 32:39
Well, even on my own, like, I feel like, I knew that this needed to be another level, like of depth. And, and I can hear it in my voice I can tell and who I am like that I'm not even just like the normal inflections. I talk about podcasts like that, you know, like, I'm not doing. I feel like because we're friends, and we're having a conversation like, this is how I would show up to you with coffee, you know, the real part of me that is like, "I don't know, like, I don't have the answer. And I don't have it all figured out." And, kind of so I feel like this. I wanted people to...
Alex Street 33:21
Yeah.
Andrea Crisp 33:22
To hear that, know that. I don't have this all figured out. Yeah,
Alex Street 33:30
So, exactly. And the thing is, what is, and what we're talking about here, right is this level of authenticity, and the courage it takes for you to show up like this and say, "Hey, let's just share our coffee conversation with the world and call it episode 200", requires courage of you because you're right. Otherwise, I show up.
Andrea Crisp 33:53
Yeah.
Alex Street 33:54
Ready to perform. And it's...
Andrea Crisp 33:57
Yes,
Alex Street 33:58
A performance, you know, Jerry Seinfeld gets up for a gig. And he delivers his gold and has the place in stitches. He performed that, he goes backstage, he's talking with his friends. Does he show up differently? Probably, slightly different, because he's not in front of a crowd. He's not doing that thing, making sure that, right the inflections, he's not thinking about his jokes as he goes, and trying to get that right. Is he still Jerry? Yeah. He's still Jerry. And do I feel like I got an inauthentic version of him on the stage? No, I don't think so. I just feel like I got...
Andrea Crisp 34:36
Yeah.
Alex Street 34:37
I got what I'm supposed to get. So you showing up on a podcast with the polished version. Let's call it a performance version, is different than right now, but it's not any less you.
Andrea Crisp 34:53
I know, and I think it you know, like, as you're saying that I'm thinking about like when I write the podcast, like a lot of times I sit down, and I write out what I want to say, or how I want to share it. And, and then when I go to record, I try to be in the moment more. I don't, I'm not just trying to read off the script, but I am in the moment. But there is part of me that knows how to show up and speak. So, and I know how to show up in a room. And I do those things. And I bring, I bring my best, I bring, and I don't think I'm not bringing my best right now. But I bring my best to keep the attention of the person listening, obviously, to bring them on a journey. But today, it's like, "Okay, no, I want I want people to just kind of go a little window in on this is some of the, the, behind the scenes, this is like, you know, what, what I'm thinking about and how this is all happening", because I think, you know, you can listen to any podcast, and, and it's like smoke and mirrors, right? Like you're like hear this, or you can look at any online creator, or person a lot of like, what you see is not when it all distilled down, you know, there's a lot that goes into it. You know, and so it's kind of nice to kind of pull that back and go, "Yeah, so that's what it looks like on the other side."
Alex Street 36:22
Okay. I haven't told you this. But I think my word that I picked for 2022, to like guide me through this, is courage. And recognizing for me, that is knowing that I need to, to leave something behind. And I need to, if I'm going to grow in the way I expect to believe that is coming to me, that it's going to require saying yes to things in a new way. If you were talking to me, and I want the audience to hear this and hear themselves in this, as somebody who is saying, I am choosing to live with courage this year, I'm choosing to make courageous choices. What would you say to me, to help me, to remind me, to kind of, you know, keep with me, as I face whatever's coming up for me?
Andrea Crisp 37:29
That's a good question. You know, what I, you know, knowing you, and telling you, for sure, I would say that, you know, it's gonna require something more of you, it's going to require a version of you that you haven't tapped into yet. And that part of you is going to have to expand, and become a little bit more uncomfortable. And it's going to require you to shift how you view life, and yourself in a way that will, you know, if you want more impact, then it's going to require more. And that peace of courage, that those steps that you take, that are courageous every day, or the really big ones, or the really small ones, it doesn't matter. They're all about allowing yourself to open up and expand and, know that there's so much more beyond what you see in front of you. Believing that is true. Acting like that is true. Living like that is true. And you don't have the playbook. But that's okay. And so that's what I'd say to you.
Alex Street 38:53
Well first of all, I got to receive that. And, what I heard in that is somebody speaking from the authority that they have lived this. And I'm just so grateful for your experience, how you bring us and your listeners in on your experience, how this journey up to episode 200 has been that, and everything that you just told me is the summary of what I believe that you have experienced through this and how you have encouraged yourself to take each next step. Am I right?
Andrea Crisp 39:37
Yeah, I feel a little bit teary. Honestly like it feels like wow, I remember the year leading up to launching the podcast, and feeling so inadequate, and then doing it and feeling like "Oh wow, this is amazing. This is so cool." And having There's really big moments and like, you know, things along the way, but I think the big lesson is stay in the game. You know, like, I think that's, you know, the most courageous thing you could do for yourself is just stay in the game. And it doesn't matter that you're playing a different position or, you know, even maybe you're benched. Maybe you're the coach one, you know, yeah, one game or one season or whatever, whatever it looks like, I think that, that you're in the game, and that you, you keep yourself in there. And if you fail and fall and you're disappointed, and things don't turn out the way you thought they would, that you don't give up and say, "Okay, well, I guess this wasn't meant for me, or I guess I'm not good enough. Or, I guess all of these things." It's like, no, it's like, Where can I find one more like, morsel of like, courage to take that next step? Stay in and you can say that to a kid, you can say it to an adult, you can say it to anybody.
Alex Street 41:07
And if they found somebody listening to this and going, like, "Yeah, but how do I know that this is the game that I'm supposed to stay in?" Well, that's how they, that's when they need to contact you. You will help them figure that out. Am I right? I mean, like that, that seems like the kind of conversation.
Andrea Crisp 41:25
You know what, though? Absolutely. And that's the whole thing. Like, I mean, there's so much in the courage, like, you know, like, I look at, you know, my own journey. And like, you know, if you really had followed my journey, you'd realize that even as a coach or an entrepreneur, I've pivoted, right, so I've had to get, you know, clear on, you know, what it is that I truly want to do. And that, you know, you've been part of that process. So, I think that it's going through those stages, and really understanding, yeah, there's, there's some clarity and vision that is required, and that there's some sifting out of things, that takes courage, you know, stepping into your personal power and confidence and, you know, believing you're worthy of you know, all the things that takes courage, and then actually doing the thing takes courage. So, you know, you might like is, am I supposed to be doing this, is a big question?
Alex Street 42:20
Right?
Andrea Crisp 42:20
What's this? What is this, right, like, so maybe it's a different iteration of this. But it's still this, because who you are innately at your core, is the very thing that you're out working every single day, that's making an impact in the world. And if you're outworking who you are, genuinely every single day, you're making an impact, you're changing the world, you're sharing your story. So this can change all the time doesn't matter. It just grows, expands becomes because...
Alex Street 42:54
You are less attached to what this is, whether it's a program, or busi,ness idea or anything, you're less attached to that because you are so clear on the core. Which again, is where I think that great graciously, thankfully, is where we find you today. And how you, as a host, get to now go forward and say, "I'm going to keep doing this thing because I do continually have new things to bring." And I'm going to bring them to you and as long as you show up like that, I think we'll show up and listen. And I'll come on as a guest 10 More times if you need me too to fill those gaps. But that is you know, what I hear that I've received from you today is that really, this is about Living Courageously, and Living Courageously is about being authentic, learning, and sharing the journey with others.
Andrea Crisp 44:04
Yeah, it is. I've never been more excited to do more podcasts after this conversation.
Alex Street 44:11
Wow, get to it. She's up all night recording. Recording. I got episode 256. Oh, phenomenal. I love this. Uh, what can people expect as you know, this goes forward and the season's keep going? Where does this go?
Andrea Crisp 44:33
You know, thank you. Yeah, thank you for asking that. I think we're gonna keep growing. I think we're gonna keep you know, peeling back the layers of what's possible. And, we're going to do it imperfectly. And we're going to do it. Sometimes, you know, feeling a little clunky. And that's okay. It doesn't have to be picture perfect. This is, life is not that way and we're not going to be that way, we're gonna show up. And we're gonna just take steps together. And we're going to open ourselves to expand to more, and we're going to be open minded. And so I just I know that if you know the women, men listening to this, my parents, shout out to my mom and dad, who jokingly sometimes listen to...
Alex Street 45:24
Ma and Pa Crispy, is that what we call them?
Andrea Crisp 45:27
Yeah, they're like, "We do listen to the podcast!"
Alex Street 45:33
Yeah, not anymore.
Andrea Crisp 45:37
You know, like, Yeah, I think that, you know, it's, it's, we're growing, right? Like we are all growing. And if you're a creative, and an entrepreneur, and a coach, and somebody, or somebody just has a message, or something to share with the world, like, we're going to do this together, we're going to be courageous together, and we're going to keep growing, and we're going to, and my desire is that women around the world will position themselves in a way that will make a huge shift in the world. And that will require them to take a lot of steps of courage to live bravely every single day.
Alex Street 46:16
Well, I, I am so grateful for this opportunity, I, there was a there was a message that I taught many years ago around the word, encourage encouragement, and to encourage one another with love. Which, you know, is a is a verse, however, that triggers anybody, whatever in Ephesians, and it stuck with me.
Andrea Crisp 46:40
There's a third, you can listen to!
Alex Street 46:43
But there's this, you know, that it says to encourage one another, and, and I always dug into that word encourage and just at its very basics, it's really easy to see is that to encourage is to give courage. And as this being one of, and we look at what we can give each other, what we can share with the world. And for you showing up as somebody who from the beginning said, "I want to make an impact that's going to require courage from me", you tapped into something that you had, and then found enough of it, that it's overflowing from you. And now you are out here, and it's you are encouraging your listeners, you are giving courage out of an overflow of what you have found and experienced. And I just think that that is such a beautiful thing. And it's why you're right, this will grow, and will be will help people worldwide to make more impact than we could imagine. So congratulations!
Andrea Crisp 47:50
You have no idea what that just, thank you, you have no idea what that just meant to me. So thank you!
Alex Street 47:55
Right.
Andrea Crisp 47:55
Thank you.
Alex Street 47:56
Well you get to unpack that over the next 100 episodes, so go for it!
Andrea Crisp 48:02
And like, can I just say thank you for holding space for me, for being here and for allowing me to share my story. And the listener for being here. Whether you've listened to one or 200 episodes. And also I want to thank my buddy, Stephen Crilly, who's like, I feel like I cry talking about, who's like, edited every single episode, put music behind it. And just I'm grateful to have done it together. And with that before I start bawling big fat tears. Thanks for listening to the 200th episode!
Alex Street 48:43
This has been a real treat. Andrea, way to go. Congratulations! We all celebrate, whoever's listening right now. Just give one big clap for Andrea, and I'm sure that she will hear that wherever she is, sometime whenever this launches. This has been great.
Andrea Crisp 49:00
Thanks. Thanks, Alex and friend. Thank you for hanging out with us today. Until next time, remember you have everything you need to live bravely.
Alex Street 49:12
Ah, that's it.
Andrea Crisp 49:15
Thanks, bud.
Alex Street 49:16
That was good. That was fun. You know what I like?
Andrea Crisp 49:17
Yeah. What do you like, that is dark in here now?
Alex Street 49:24
That is happening in here too. Um, I have like, I think I asked you like three questions. But it was, it was so much more of like, you talk, that brings up something for, I'm like, yeah, that that makes me think of this. And then you just know when to come in and be like, yeah, like I didn't ask a question. I was like, Well, tell me about that. You're just like, you jump in, and then share your expanded thought on that. And then it comes back. It's just that's conversation right? And, and I think that's where it's fun and it flows and so, well done!
Andrea Crisp 50:06
Yeah, no, thank you. I appreciate that you. I knew if anybody was gonna be able to hold space like, I'm like, "Alex is going to be able to." And I have no idea like, honestly, I had no idea. So it surprised me as much as I'm like, let's see what happens?
Alex Street 50:23
That's great. I also had no idea, whether that's what you want to hear or not, not prepared. Just came in are like, "Alright, have fun."
Andrea Crisp 50:31
But yeah, but that's I think, and that, honestly, is kind of what I wanted, was hoping for I was like, because I think that, you know, like, it's great to have like, Okay, well, this and this and like, make it be perfect and polish and all that stuff. But at the end of the day that people are looking for something a bit different. And so yeah, this is the thing.
Kate 50:53
Thanks for joining us for the 200th episode. We are truly grateful that you have been along for the ride. There are a few people we'd like to thank Andrea, Alex, our production assistant, Claudia Henock, Stephen Crilly, who's produced all 200 episodes and written original music for the show. And me, of course, it's not awkward at all thanking myself.
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